Open Ninth

Conversations Beyond the Courtroom.

Tomorrow’s Courthouse

Open Ninth - Episode 146

Years before a courthouse is ever built, a team of architects and designers must plan for the needs and services of a building they won’t see for quite some time. And to make it even more daunting, this courthouse will need to operate for decades after its completion. How can someone plan for the challenges a courthouse will face so far in advance? These are the discussions Allison McKenzie, the Senior Architect of the National Center for State Courts, leads in her work every single day. Listen in to Open Ninth to hear her talk to Chief Judge Lisa Munyon about COVID-19’s impact on our spaces and how the design of a courthouse can influence public trust.


  • 00:15 – Introduction to Allison McKenzie
  • 11:10 – Changes in courthouse architecture over time
  • 10:16 – COVID-19’s effect on courthouse design
  • 22:50 – How courthouse design influences public trust
  • 28:39 – Future courthouse design
  • 32:42 – Factors influencing changes


Open Ninth
Episode 146

Conversations Beyond the Courtroom.

Run time 39:42



In this episode

Chief Judge Lisa T. Munyon
Lisa T. Munyon

Chief Judge and Open Ninth host

Chief Judge Lisa T. Munyon has been a Judge with the Ninth Judicial Circuit for 18 years. She is the Ninth Circuit's first female Chief Judge.

Allison McKenzie, AIA
Allison McKenzie, AIA

Registered Architect and Senior Court Planning Consultant at the NCSC.

Allison McKenzie is the Senior Architect of the National Center for State Courts where she leads a conversation on future courthouse design.