In this episode

Frederick J. Lauten
Former Chief Judge and Moderator
Judge Fred Lauten served in the Ninth Circuit from 1994 to 2019. Between 2015 and 2019, he served as Chief Judge of the Circuit.

Mary Anne De Petrillo
Executive Director, Legal Aid Society
Mary Anne De Petrillo received her juris doctorate from Loyola University New Orleans and has served as the executive director of the Legal Aid Societ